replying to tree-elf...
...this is how I see it. For all of history, woman has been at the beck and call of man doing his every bidding and bending over backwards for his every whim and fancy ...afterall thats what was expected of her.... the obedient daughter to her father, good sister to her brother, dutiful wife to her husband, nurturing mother to her son and so on. Times fortunatly are changing...well to an extent....and here comes the point where woman stops reflects and thnks 'hey waitamin theres someone else here who also needs to be nurtured taken care of and made happy; woman herself. (and men ofcourse are like wtf mate? ...(sorry couldnt resist) So heres the thng where woman has evolved and taken all those life lessons with her learning to juggle career, family, money, religion, society, spirituality..the list just keeps going... man on the other hand is still stuck in a place where he doesnt understand why things are changing and why on earth he should have to make comprimisies. Now for all u males out there .... im am in no way attacking you...like i said in my earlier post: guys have it tough dealing w/ women. they do.
See heres the difference ..guys have the ability to compartmentalize their life. Theres the job/career box, family life/wife box, and other interests box...one rarely ever bleeding into another. Afterall no one has ever told a man that he has to choose between having a family and a career ... that would just be aburd. And thats a great way to live...hell if i could thats how i would want it. But I cant. Because thats not how thing are for me. I have to include my family life in every aspect of my life and for that and all the new avenues of my lifes. I need a partner who is now willing to share a life with me...not put me in a compartment of his life, bring home the bacon and thnk hes done his duty. Its more then that. Its not a game in anyway whatsoever and I pity the people who treat it like it is. For most women that I know ...its not callousness (well sometimes it is) but for others its about loving and giving so much to a relationship and not getting what you deserve in return. So the dilema is not to "be alone or to be with a guy you don't like" its to stay with the guy you love so much or to take care of ur own needs. See for a man to thnk woman's expectaions now a days are crazy is reasonable but when he was at the recieving end he was never happier.
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hahahhahaha ...and therein lies the crux
replying to samm:
Sigh. It's a very old debate, and I have found arguing with this to be about as effective as banging my head on the wall. Nevertheless....
The problems/effects of your new worldview:
1) This society is quickly losing good mothers. A child is raised primarily by the mother. [On an aside: Yes you can argue that the guy should have a more active part to play in the child's upbringing, but I assure you, you are deluding yourself if you think men are going to do 50% of the housework or spend quite as much time with the kids as mothers do. It is not in our nature. We can certainly help with the housework, for example. We can cook. We can clean (if pushed really hard). Generally, we don't even notice dirt]. There are values that need to be imparted to children. There is only so much men can do about that. We need you. Women are interested in careers. I hear a great deal of spiel about how the modern mother is handling both her career and her children. Bull. I have yet to see such a case.
2) In the abscence of good mothers, this society is raising clever devils. Kids who can use every new gadget; kids who are well equipped with the tools to get into Harvard or MIT or Yale and whatnot; kids who are willing to slit throats, backstab, lie, cheat and do anything and everything to get their wants in the society they will soon be entering as adults. This society is losing its values. The fabric of our society is being torn apart. A case may be made for change. You could say: "Women are coming into their own. These are times of change. Let things settle down a bit, and we will form a new order, a new system." I don't see it happening. As I said before, you are deluded if you think men are going to take over 50% of the housework, or replace you as good mothers. We cannot do it. We need you.
3) When a woman goes into the workplace, she opens herself to all sorts of sexual openings, harrasment etc etc. Men can't help it. Men are wolves. Yes, I know it would be very nice if we could just lock up the wolves instead of the vitims. Don't really see that happening either. There's something wrong with our genetic programming. We can't help being wolves in that regard (speaking in general here). God knew about this tendency, and hence ordered women to cover themselves. Ofcourse, this point is simply a matter of faith. I believe God knew what he was doing, and that he knew the effects women would have when let loose in society like this. You are welcome to disagree. I for one, believe. The first two issues are real, and I think deserve some thought.
devils advocate??
see i think there comes a point in every womans life where you generally start thing that NO I NEED TO PUT MY FOOT DOWN ON THIS GARBAGE OF TREATMENT!!!! but thats exactly when you choose to be whoever you want to be.
There is absolutely no harm in shaping up our men because WE give birth to them, We can take of them and We teach them values... and no we are not losing good mothers..thats generlizing things way too much. Women are choosing to be independent and there are men out there who undesratnd that and are not waiting to pounce at you just because you want to make something out of yourself.
you can go ahead and screw bith the scenarios and take the worst out of it..or you can choose to be the woman everyother woman envies..heck even men.
men will be men..yes it doesnt give them a reason to tarmple you but there is something God messed up in there system and it shall remain;).
perhaps a girlish thought but: if you love the person you are with and love them with passion..they see you for who you are...they really do...
and if they dont grab them by the neck haul them to your feet and make them grovel;)
see the new system will not suddenly have a role reversal..it will be this way..you can just either be timid or be proud of what you do and who you are..and be very proud that YOU RAISE THE MEN OF THIS NATION!!yes its a difficult job and yes there will be plenty that will go aroud messing everythign that they can lay their hands on..but thats when...
it has to be "the good, the bad, the ugly" hainaaa.
anyway thats my point of view..noones perfect..we arent either..so lets NOt be the devils advocate about everythign in life.
each to his own i guess:)
nope
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